
Earlier this year I stumbled upon the work of photographer Thomas Breakwell through a close friend of mine. I saw his solo show at Kings ARI, Squats and I was overwhelmed by its quality and conception. Thomas is incredibly skilled, bright and kind. I met up with him on a windy afternoon in Carlton to discuss cameras, Christmas and his award winning series that can be found at the Centre for Contemporary Photography.
So where was Squats taken? And how did you find these hideaways?
All of those photos from Squats were shot out around Ringwood in the Eastern suburbs where I live. I like exploring around the middle of un-used bushy areas in between suburbs and the on fringes of parks and abandoned industrial sites, the kind of places that can’t really be maintained. I started coming across these secret hide aways, mostly where teenagers were drinking or smoking weed or having sex. I found them quite interesting so I started photographing them.
Do you consider yourself a voyeur, a Peeping Tom of sorts?
Well no, not necessarily a voyeur, because I try and avoid people being there. (Laughs) I think I’m more interested in the relationship people have with the landscape and the way this semi-wilderness is used as a place for privacy, rather than the people themselves.
How often do you take photos?
Well at the moment not very often, I currently use a large format camera that’s quite heavy, and also really expensive to buy and process the film for. It works out to be about $11 a shot. (Sighs loudly) So I have to be very specific when I take photos. But I do have a digital camera and a camera phone but nothing for what I’d consider to be work.
I see. So what camera are you working with now?
At the moment I am using a Shen Hao 4×5 field camera. It’s one of those old fashioned foldy cameras made by a small company in Shanghai.
Wow. Those look ridiculous.
Yeah. They’re a lot of fun.
So when you’re taking photos in a series like Squats, do you have to set up every single shot?
With Squats, everything like the compositions and the distance between the camera and the scene was set up exactly the same. Just like those industrial shots by Bernd and Hilla Becher. And so getting the camera set up and focused might take about half an hour. Everything is really meticulous and premeditated, but the actual scene itself is as I found it.
Would you ever consider swapping to digital?
Sure, I have no particular attachment to using film but I couldn’t afford a digital camera that would give me the same quality as the camera that I’m using now. I mean I scan the negatives so it essentially becomes a digital file anyway. So until I have like $50,000 or things get cheaper I’m just going to stick with film or until Kodak discontinue Portra.
That’s understandable. Does anyone inspire you?
(Laughs) Well in terms of photography that I’m doing at the moment, I really like the New American colour movement guys like Mitch Epstien, Stephen Shore and contemporary guys like Eirik Johnson and Alec Soth. They are all large format, American “boys club” sort of photographer’s photographers.
I personally do not resonate well with Christmas. How did you come across your material for Suburban Christmas?
To me the notion of Christmas in Australia is just sort of ridiculous. Especially with all the paraphernalia people put in their gardens. You know crazy lights, blow up Santas, with fake snow in the middle of Melbourne summer. It just seems very strange and dislocated and I just found it really funny. So when I was cruising around on my bike or in a car or wherever and I’d see something like that, I’d take a photo. There are also websites with lists of the best houses around Melbourne to see christmas lights that I have used to find locations.
So you’ve been through uni, RMIT?
Yeah, I graduated last year.
Do you feel like you’ve gained anything from your degree?
I think the most important thing now is the network that I have through finishing with the group that I did at RMIT and all the connections that brings. Everyone’s doing their own thing and you end up feeding off each other. Also before when I first started uni I was still quite young and I was just taking pretty pictures. So now I have a deep consideration of everything that I do. So that’s also why now I take a lot less photos now than what I did before. I’m happy I went.
With having your first solo at Kings ARI recently this year, how do you think people responded to the work?
No one said it was terrible, I got some good feedback and most people seemed to like the work. I don’t think they are photos that could ever sell that well though because they are so filthy. You know, who wants a picture of bongs and discarded undies in their home?
What’s next?
Well Squats is going on a national tour with the CCP’s Australian Documentary Awards, though I’m just tinkering around at the moment. But I’ve got a show of new work next year in March at Seventh Gallery. Then I’m doing some travelling which will include doing a residency in Jogyakarta, Indonesia.

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